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Bob, the Free Radical's avatar

Just look at the "Evan Fairbanks video" . . total insult to human intelligence! No airliner ever flown could have performed as was shown in the video, therefore the video is FAKE & totally fraudulent! why is this so difficult for sentient beings to understand?

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Math Easy Solutions (MES)'s avatar

The Evan Fairbanks video is real, but the object seen was not a Big Boeing. https://youtu.be/ilwlQpXUvVA

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Jane Cena's avatar

Even Fairbanks said it looked like a bad special effects. That's probably a hint to the dubious quality of his footage.

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Bob, the Free Radical's avatar

I can dig it . . .

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Mark Conlon's avatar

I have a good standard definition quality version of the Fairbanks 2nd plane video. It shows that the left plane wing should be dark in shadow, but is disappearing, just as we see in Luc Courchesne's video also. Fairbanks explains what he meant when he said "it was like a bad special effect" to Jeff Hill.

Because of Simon Shack (Hytten) accusing the videographers (Evan Fairbanks) of faking their footage, it put them off talking to myself and Chris Hampton when we made the 9/11 Alchemy film. Although we did managed to talk to a few. So I hope your not implying Simon Shack's nonsense with your comment?

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Jane Cena's avatar

I'd love to see that interview Evan Fairbanks did with Jeff Hill. I don't think I've seen it before, or if I have, I must've forgotten about it.

I'm still of the opinion that *some* of the 9/11 footage was possibly tampered with or faked, which contrasts Shack's position that ALL of it was faked, so I don't think my and his views are really the same.

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Kazimir Malevitch's avatar

OPS!

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Jane Cena's avatar

And it only gets more interesting from here: reportedly, only three bone fragments of his were found and identified by the NY Medical Office. It apparently took several years for Ward's remains to finally be returned to his mother despite the fact that they were first discovered and identified months after 9/11. One would think that they would've been returned to his mother sooner, but that didn't appear to be the case here. Weird, don't you think? To quote:

"For seven years, those three pieces of bone sat in a Ziploc bag in a freezer at the New York City Medical Examiner’s office, waiting to be claimed. For seven years, Ward-Baker made phone calls to New York from her house in San Diego, searching a way to bring her son home."

"The Medical Examiner’s office identified Tim Ward several months after 9/11."

https://www.amny.com/news/mother-secures-sons-remains-after-7-year-bureaucratic-snag/

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Mark Conlon's avatar

It is ridiculous that people would think the DNA would survive such temperatures as 1800F. So many cases to go through with this DNA information. Saying that, (just my opinion, based on evidence), the plane holes weren't made by a plane or missile of any kind as, I have never known a plane crash nor a missile strike affect the Earth's magnetic field as did these four "alleged" plane crashes on 9/11. I know for sure, none of the plane passengers lost their lives because of planes crashing into the 4 targets.

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Jane Cena's avatar

It's the same thing with the Pentagon incident: super-hot fires burning for days on end and even melting glass after a plane barely full of people crashed and exploded into tiny little pieces or vaporized upon impact, yet they somehow managed to identify almost everyone onboard (technically, six out of 64 victims from Flight 77 were never actually identified: Dana Falkenberg and the five alleged hijackers, which only leaves 58 people having been positively ID'd).

It's almost as believable as the "magic passports" story. Or the stories of seeing faces from the windows of American 77 traveling at 530+ mph as it approached the Pentagon façade. Or Hani Hanjour managing to precisely crash land the plane into the building with his rookie piloting skills.

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Mark Conlon's avatar

The strange thing with the Pentagon event is, if it was a hot event, then it has to be explained how people were burnt to a crisp, yet their clothes were unburnt? Adam Esienberg (clean-up crew member who I spoke with on zoom with Norman), is writing a book, and he said he seen dead bodies which were very unusual looking, like they were asleep, and had the wind knocked out of them, and burnt looking only on one side. And this was away from the main ring explosion.

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Jane Cena's avatar

Yeah, this wasn't a normal plane crash. You wouldn't have such selective burns if a commercial Boeing 757 really did crash there. But I'm sure the "debunkers" have an answer for that, too.

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Mark Conlon's avatar

Also, no damage to the floor or foundations either of the pentagon, and also no seismic signal, apart from an "electrical disturbance". Very strange!

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Jane Cena's avatar

Yeah. Whatever really happened there, it certainly wasn't what we're told. It definitely wasn't the same plane that was last seen flying over Missouri and Kansas well after the crash.

And this can be topped with other oddities of the attack, such as the fact that the area of the Pentagon that was hit was notably under renovation and was relatively empty of staff, which minimized the death and destruction that occurred. Or the fact that the government didn't show the same level of care in identifying the plane parts found that they supposedly showed in identifying the victims.

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Jane Cena's avatar

And here's another ludicrous detail: the above article claims that his mother's attorneys suggested that her son's remains be cremated, even though there was little left to cremate. Since they didn't find his entire body, why bother with cremation? Even his mother dismissed such a suggestion, saying that his body had "already been cremated” by the fiery crash of his plane.

The article also doesn't detail exactly how his remains were identified. No mention is made of what process was undertaken to identify his remains, such as DNA testing with his mother's samples to see if there was a match. We're only left to assume how that came to be.

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Jane Cena's avatar

Here's another article about Tim Ward's remains published a few months after they were returned to his mother Susanne. This time, they claim that four - not three - bone fragments of his were retrieved and given to her, and unlike the other article, imply that Susanne was in no rush to retrieve her son's remains by saying that she "wanted them to stay there for a while" because they were still in the process of "finding remains" at Ground Zero. This despite the fact that she would later say in the same article that the rest of his remains were "vaporized." What did she expect to find, his whole body?

““I wanted them to stay there for a while,” she recalled. “They were still finding remains.””

But they at least were gracious enough to inform us how his remains were identified, which was via finding matches from the saliva samples sent by his parents to the Medical Examiner's Office in New York, who held custody of his remains and did the tests. That's better than AMNY's journalism.

“Like so many thousands of family members, Ward-Baker and Tim’s father, Ray Ward of Visalia, sent saliva swabs to the New York City Medical Examiner’s Office in case any of Tim’s remains were found. By the end of that year, his mother’s DNA helped identify four of his bone fragments.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20250621175819/https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2009/03/08/a-long-sad-homecoming/

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Mark Conlon's avatar

Hi, Which videos do you specifically believe are tampered with?

Jeff spoke with Evan via phone call. The data base I built are all available at my original blog or Substack. Including 3 hours, with Jennifer Spell, which Jeff did not publish on the internet, however sent me the mp3 files privately in 2010. Take a listen to them, I got a lot out of them.

Also, I would appreciate you leaving Shill Shack's name out of my comments section going forward. I've spent since 2012-13 exposing his BS, and having to school or ban the CGI & Video Fakery people who just spout his crap when they don't want to acknowledge the evidence I have presented regarding Shack, being a deceiver and disinfo peddler. Shack is not a force for honest research or exposing truths.

Many thanks!

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