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Michael Ginsburg's avatar

How can anyone in their right mind still claim that an AIRPLANE crashed into the Pentagon on 9/11?

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Mark Conlon's avatar

You'd be surprised Michael, I am engaging on X (Twitter) right now, with someone who thinks a AA77 plane hit the Pentagon, and thinks I am making up this evidence in my article, even though it is from official sources. It is like banging your head up the wall with these people.

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Michael Ginsburg's avatar

Can very much relate...

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Jane Cena's avatar

Regardless if a plane hit the Pentagon or not on 9/11, it certainly wasn't the same plane seen flying in the Midwest as Flight 77. One plane could not physically be in two different places at the same time.

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Thomas Salazar's avatar

The sheer number of holes in their narrative is astounding. As would be in such a monumental lie. Am I the only one who gets a rise out of the discovery of these findings? I think not. Becoming part of my daily regimen. ✨️

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Michael McKay's avatar

It is fun yet pointless and plays into the purpose of false narratives. Play along and stay distracted from the truth hidden by the false narratives. Plato’s Cave much?

It’s the same false narrative vs opposing narrative shit the atheists have been playing with the theists for a very long time

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Thomas Salazar's avatar

I have the ability, and the time, to read between the lines. We all are allowed to position ourselves where we choose. I consider all theories until they make no sense, to stay objective, and for entertainment. I know the truths behind 911, but my focus is on the Vatican, the Anti-Christ, Revelations, Rome, Venetian Black Nobility, the Italian Mafia, the Grey Pope. These Scoundrels who perpetrated 911 are thieves. Nothing more.

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Michael McKay's avatar

If you really “know the truths behind 9/11”, you wouldn’t have mentioned all those falsely narrated things immediately after.

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Mark Conlon's avatar

Please enlighten me to the “truths” behind 9/11?

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Michael McKay's avatar

Gladly.

However, as noted by former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, there are “Unknown Unknowns. “That is to say, there are things we don’t know that we don’t know”

In order to fully understand an unknown unknown, a certain amount of information must be obtained and framed in such a way as to enlighten oneself.

If you are serious, I’ll gladly spend the time supplying you the least amount of information required

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9/11 Revisionist's avatar

Great, well researched article - Thank you for this!

If I may, let me link some discussions that people might want to listen to.

9/11 Truth Movement Planes Propaganda - Podcast - 7th March 2025

When the 9/11 truther planes narratives do not fly

A conversation with 9/11 Planes Research & 9/11 Revisionist

Podcast: https://rumble.com/v6q6eo8-when-the-911-truther-plane-narratives-do-not-fly.html

The Suspension of Newtonian Physics on 9/11 - Podcast - 18th April 2025

A Plane conversation with Dr Morgan Reynolds & 9/11 Revisionist

Article & Interview: https://911revision.substack.com/p/the-suspension-of-newtonian-physics

Adam Eisenberg - 9/11 Pentagon whistleblower

While serving in the Army as a member of Alpha Company, 3rd US Infantry, Adam Eisenberg spent approximately 240 hours on site, with at least a hundred of his fellow servicemen, at the Pentagon on 9/11.

In short, he helped clean up the mess from the plane crash. Except that, well, there was no plane, he argues.

His interviews: https://rumble.com/v5jloul-adam-eisenberg-pentagon-whistleblower.html

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Bob, the Free Radical's avatar

to quote "the transponder was turned off and even primary radar contact with the aircraft was lost. " this alone is a red-flag, what heavy magic makes the radar primary contact disappear? the entire story is a crock.

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Jane Cena's avatar

The 9/11 Commission Report claims that the reason Flight 77 completely lost radar contact with nearby civilian and military ATC centers was because of "poor primary radar coverage" in the area where it vanished.

Of course, this explanation also doesn't hold water because further research done by 9/11 researchers such as 9/11 Omission Report shows that the region where AA77 was last seen had at least three radar sites near the plane, so the likelihood of it totally vanishing over the border between Ohio and Kentucky was pretty slim.

http://www.911omissionreport.com/flight_77_flight_path/

Plus, the 9/11 Commission itself said that the FAA apparently tracked American 77 turning around and flying back after its transponder was turned off. This contradicts the Commission's claim that the plane was not visible on primary radar for "8 minutes and 13 seconds" (8:56 AM - 9:05 AM), since the FAA radar tracking system is considered primary radar. To quote:

"Radar reconstructions performed after 9/11 reveal that FAA radar equipment tracked the flight from the moment its transponder was turned off at 8:56."

http://www.faqs.org/docs/911/911Report-42.html

Primary radar technology used by the FAA:

https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/technology/asr-11

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=is+faa+atc+radar+primary+radar%3F&t=h_&ia=web

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Bob, the Free Radical's avatar

Thanks for your research . . .

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Jane Cena's avatar

You're welcome!

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Jane Cena's avatar

What I find odd about this is that despite the FAA having supposedly tracked AA77 the entire time, they never shared their data with other ATC centers before the Pentagon was hit. They say it was not the FAA's "practice to record primary radar" on their screens, but I ain't buying it.

https://catalog.archives.gov/id/2610352

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Nancy Weaver's avatar

I agree! You can’t say you solved a puzzle with so many pieces left over!

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Bob, the Free Radical's avatar

In LOGIC, you can KNOW what something isn't without any obligation to specify what it is.

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Jane Cena's avatar

BTW, I've finally published my long-awaited article on Flight 77 itself. Credits goes to you, Mark, for inspiring me to take this endeavor. Share this with everyone you know.

https://janecena.substack.com/p/the-flight-path-anomalies-of-american

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Mark Conlon's avatar

Hi Jane, Fantastic, I am looking forward to reading, and I will give it a share. Many thanks!

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Jane Cena's avatar

BTW, Mark, anything after 14:00 hrs in UTC actually translates to 10:00 hrs in EDT, not 9:00 hrs. So 14:29 and 14:31 hrs (UTC) should be read as 10:29 AM and 10:31 AM (EDT). Which really means that Flight 77 was apparently still airborne almost an hour after it reportedly crashed into the Pentagon at 9:37 AM (EDT), which in UTC translates to 13:37 hrs. You can check this for yourself below:

https://www.utctime.net/utc-to-edt-converter

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Mark Conlon's avatar

Ah, so I was right the first time around. I changed it from 10:00 hours to 09:00 hours, as someone informed me I had it wrong. I mentioned 10:00 hours in my video, and then corrected myself to 09:00 hours. Thanks for clarifying, I will change it back. Luckily, I left my original blog as it was with the 10:00 hours.

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Jane Cena's avatar

No problem. I'm glad to help you whenever I can. Take care.

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Mark Conlon's avatar

That’s great, thank you! I am looking forward some more of your articles. On a side-note, it would be great to see if any of those five United 175 passengers, missing off that manifest list had any cancelations of their flight. I don’t see United’s listed though in that document? I had a quick scoot around, but was unable to find it. Maybe it is in another document. Do you have a link to all my data-base of “official” files? https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19cTckQGJgu-4E8X-KTz_3PsMijQ8oIGm

I have more to add, so feel free to download and use these.

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Jane Cena's avatar

I'll see what I can come up on that front. Once I finish my Flight 77 article, I may look into UA175 and your database of official files.

Speaking of official files, do you know where I could find the one labelled "9/11 Commission Files Team 8/Box 17 Miles Kara Work Files/Folder 1 of 3", which pertains to AA77 being seen flying in the Midwest? I'd be more than grateful to you if you can find where it is and share it with me here (or via email at jane.cena.876@gmail.com).

I wish you well. - J

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Mark Conlon's avatar

I am uploading more files. I will send you links to the others already uploaded a bit later. If possible, could you post your email again. I thought I had it saved. I can send you that photo I mentioned to you. I will delete your message once I have your email to keep it private. Many thanks! :-)

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Jane Cena's avatar

Ironically, the solid evidence you present would strengthen Chandler and his peers' position that 9/11 was an inside job. These anomalies should not exist with the planes if the conspiracy didn't extend beyond those who allegedly hijacked the flights.

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Mark Conlon's avatar

Chandler and co have delibrately kept quiet about all this evidence. He pushes the ridiculous notion AA77 hit the Pentagon. A “real” plane? I bet they are working right now on debunking the evidence. Chandler is a liar, and working against bringing the truth out. Rather pathetic what he said about Adam Esienberg, who was part of the clean up operation. I am privy to some of Adam's communications with liars, like Gage and the rest of them. I have no time for any of them, they are treasonous traitors, and should be called out as so. Until they want to go head to head, I treat them with the contempt they deserve. I doubt they will want a show down though. All they do is want people’s money off them. Millions of dollars donated to them? What have we learned? Plus, those clowns at International Center For 9/11 Justice, now trying to establish themselves as an authority on the planes, and passengers? Even their director, Piers Robinson, was following me, yet promotes "Remote Controlled" planes. Robinson admits his expertise is in propaganda studies.

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Jane Cena's avatar

Yeah, they seem to be a shady, gate-keeping bunch. And these same people have the audacity to claim that we should look at all the evidence before forming any conclusions about 9/11. It seems they aren't following their own advice when it comes to the planes or even the buildings.

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