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Intriguing to say the least...

Did they become collateral damage or were they all given a stack of cash and new identities?

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My personal opinion is, some passengers could have been fictional, and some were real passengers who were unwittingly used (collateral damage) in an exercise which didn't end well. The Compensation Fund payments seem to indicate this.

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Any evidence to either or in general what happened to the PEOPLE on 9/11?

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You need to be more specific with regards to the people on 9/11.

Are you referring to the people in the towers or on the "planes".

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Good point!

Both are interesting but the people who died on the planes (according to the official narrative) are of most interest to me.

Specifically:

What really happened to Mark Bingham, Todd Beamer, Tom Burnett and Jeremy Glick?

The full truth on 9/11 hides in the definitive answer to that question imho.

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Hi Michael,

Thanks for reading, and commenting!

Mark Bingham, didn't board United 93, he was not assigned a seat number, nor was listed on the flight manifest. There are very strange anolamlies surrounding Mark Bingham. For example, he is listed in two different sources as Gerald "Mark" Bingham? Yet we are told his name is Mark Kendall Bingham. His mother Alice had a name change also, from Alice Hoglan, to Alice Hoagland? Alice also worked for United Airlines as a Flight Attendant. I have published a witness account of Tritton White, a professional football player, who observe a plane boarding passengers on the tarmac at Newark, which was said to be United 93. There is a common pattern with all the flights being duplicated, and indicates that the duplicate planes were part of war game hijacking scenarios taking place on 9/11. It is know that Amalgam Virgo 02, had hijacking scenarios, and would use real Delta Airline employees in exercises, and also use FBI agents playing the role of passengers. From my own investigation, it appears some passengers were fictional, and some passengers were real. The 9/11 Compensation Fund reflects this, by the amount of family members who received payment for their loss of their loved ones killed on the 4 flights.

Finally, knowing how they were killed is impossible to know unless you were there to see how they were killed. What I can conclusively say is, the passengers were NOT killed by the planes crashing into the targets, because the planes (as I have proven beyond any doubt) were still airborne at the time of the crashes.

Regards,

Mark Conlon.

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Thanks for that detailec reply Mark. I really appreciate it.

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Will you be happy with the answer that maybe they never really excited and those that did are buried somewhere in a ditch?

Do you really think, the people who turned skyscrapers to dust on live TV, along with 3000 people will care about a few people hoodwinked into a “training” exercise?

Please stop following Petra’s ludicrous thinking.

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I read your other comment and it is very helpful so thank you.

This one, not so much. No need to get personal and I am not even sure what "ludicrous thinking" you are even referring to.

I will check Mark's article on Bingham now. Have not seen it previously.

Thanks again for your time.

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Likely the latter, considering that many of them were government agents or white collar professionals who probably had planned to disappear from the spotlight with the government's help (e.g., Barbara Olson, Brian Sweeney, David and Lynn Angell). Some, as others have pointed out, appeared to be fictional.

If there were any real deaths of 9/11 passengers and crew at all, they likely didn't die in the manner presented by officialdom. Those that weren't compliant or threatened to blow the whistle were likely silenced. Others may have died from illness or physical injuries that had nothing to do with 9/11. Some may not have even died that day. That's all I have to say.

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And the same can be said for those who reportedly died in the WTC complex and the Pentagon. It has been pointed out by researchers that many of those deaths don't appear in public records like the Social Security Death Index and NUMIDENT and a significant percentage of them were never physically accounted for. So we have no reason to believe almost 3,000 people died in those locations as a direct result of the 9/11 attacks, either.

And when you consider the source(s) of such numbers - which are the same people who apparently lied about everything else relating to 9/11 - you should be even more skeptical. If they can lie about what caused the Twin Towers or WTC7 to 'collapse', for instance, what's stopping them from lying about mass casualties?

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Collapse is NOT the correct descriptive word to use for the towers. They disintegrated on a molecular level. Building 7, looked like a controlled demo, but was not either.

Have you read Dr Wood' book?

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To clarify, I meant collapse loosely, as in they APPEARED to collapse, but they weren't really ordinary structural collapses caused by controlled demolition or office fires.

And yes, I've read her book, in which she discusses and refutes both controlled demolition and office fire collapse theories in favor of the buildings' destruction being caused by DEWs.

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Dr Wood emphises that one needs to use the correct terminology...

Then don't misrepresent what you should have learnt reading her book.

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I stand corrected.

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So, at the end of the day, small minded people who want to know what happened to the passengers are missing the bigger picture…

Where did the passengers go, is just another physiological distraction.

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As it relates to what caused the Twin Towers and WTC7 to disintegrate, yes, what happened to the alleged victims isn't relevant. It doesn't settle the question of whether the buildings were brought down by DEWs, rigged explosives, office fires, or something else entirely - of which people with functioning minds can deduce for themselves by analyzing the observable evidence recorded that day and since (to me, it appears to be DEWs).

And I didn't come here with the illusion that their fates had anything to do with the "bigger picture", either, so don't lump me in with those "small minded people" you speak of. My point was these people lied about more than just one or two aspects about 9/11, not that what became of the "victims" was of any relevance to what destroyed the Twin Towers and Building 7.

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You misunderstood my comment. I did not lump you in with those "small minded people", but the general public, I interact with on a daily basis, believing the official government conspiracy theory and then level 2 and 3 of the cover up - controlled demo, thermite and nukes.

When it comes to what the mechanism of destruction was, the observable evidence leads you to one, irrefutable conclusion, a cold DEW technology.

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Thanks for the clarification. I'm of a similar opinion that DEWs or something similar played a role in this saga, as that explains the lack of visible evidence for rigged explosives and the relevant telemetry data available (assuming the latter is genuine). With the vast resources and advanced technology these people have at their disposal, DEWs aren't out of the question.

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Not to be confrontational, but have you even read Dr Wood's book or the evidence contained in her 2007 qui-tam whistleblower case?

Court filings: https://www.drjudywood.com/wp/court-case-qui-tam/

Book: https://www.wheredidthetowersgo.com

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THAT is THE question and I am yet to see a detailed and well presented response to that.

You and others and have done great work presenting alternatives views (with supporting material) for what happened to the WTC BUILDINGS (any thoughts on what happened to the Pentagon btw?).

You have also done tremendous effort imho in answering the question of what happened to the PLANES (or more accurately: what planes?).

However, this loop you both opened cannot be closed without figuring out what ACTUALLY happened to the PEOPLE on the alleged three planes, as well as in the WTC buildings and the Pentagon.

This is the single most important question that MUST be answered for the full truth to actually come out:

What happened to the PEOPLE of 9/11 and who (if any) of them are willing participants, patsies or genuine victims?

Not trying to tell you both what to do but Mark Bingham, Todd Beamer, Tom Burnett and Jeremy Glick may be the best avenue to dive really really deep into until a definitive answer of who they are and what has ACTUALLY happened to them on 9/11 can be definitively answered.

I personally think with a high degree of certainty that THIS is the one thing that can unravel this unprecedented conspiracy once and for all!

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Michael, with all due respect...

How many of Mark's articles have you read?

Here is his article on Mark Bingham - https://911planesresearch.substack.com/p/who-is-gerald-mark-bingham You will also remember in my articles where I pointed out the dupers' delight of Mark Bingham's mom in the Sept 12 news interview.

Then, with regard to the alleged passengers - I have already pointed out the suspect flight manifests as well as the discrepancies of the phone calls. Maybe you want to re-listen this short video explaining it? Link: https://rumble.com/v516cko-911-plane-passenger-lists-and-phone-calls.html

If you also watched, 9/11 Alchemy: Facing Reality and even Jesse Ventura's 2012 conspiracy series, you would be well aware the first voice morphing tech was available in 1999...

Also, there are discrepancies with the 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund - Have you read Mark's article on that? Link: https://911planesresearch.substack.com/p/911-victims-compensation-fund-oddities

I cannot understand people's fixation of the planes, as if that is the key to unlocking the events of 9/11.

Aas I see it, it is hel of a interesting, BUT - The tech used to fool people in thinking they saw planes and the tech used to dustify two 110 story buildings far outweigh the fact of a few unwitting participants in an flight hijacking exercise ending up being collateral damage...

Mark has already proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the alleged planes did not crash, basic airplanes physics rules out radio controlled planes, as does the video evidence of the glitching 3D volumetric projections...

The more pressing matter is the people in the towers that were dustified and the first responders that are still dying to this day because of the dust and contaminants they breathed in and who know how many other people living in the vicinity of the towers after cleanup.

What we need to do is expose this technology that was used on 9/11 AND the 9/11 truther movement for being complicit in the cover up as per my article...

9/11 Truth Suppression Timeline

"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves." - Vladimir Lenin

Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/911-truth-suppression-timeline

I'll remind you again....

With regards to the technology used on 9/11, MOST are missing the bigger picture!

Just as the hazardous and wasteful technology behind a nuclear bomb can also be used to provide hazardous and wasteful nuclear power, the technology which caused the clean and effortless molecular dissociation of the twin towers could also be used to give the whole world effortless clean energy.

Exposing this clean free energy technology means and end to the ruling elite's ability to control and exploit the general population through scarce, expensive, dirty and inefficient resources such as oil, coal, nuclear and "renewables".

Any group with an interest in maintaining the current paradigm of artificial scarcity and crappy energy technologies, which keeps the general population enslaved, would have an interest in helping to maintain the 9/11 cover up, because exposing the crime also exposes the TECHNOLOGY to commit it.

Maybe the people who did 9/11 operate under a code of conduct where they have to show this technology to the people, so they have the opportunity to claim it.

And if the people are too stupid or apathetic to show any interest, they will then feel justified in keeping it for themselves and continuing to control and exploit the human herd, like the CATTLE they have shown themselves to be.

You might think it's insane, and it is, but remember we're talking about a group of people who are willing to turn skyscrapers to DUST, live on TV.

In the final analysis there is no "grand" deception" or cover up.

There is only BLUFF!

Because everyone can see what happened to the buildings was clearly and PROVABLY NOT a structural failure (collapse) or a conventional controlled demolition by ANY thermal or kinetic mechanism!

Official narrative – Jet fuel.

Option behind door no 1 – explosives,

door no 2 – thermite,

door no 3 – buried or mini nukes.

Just don’t look at where the EVIDENCE points to.

Read Dr Wood’s book: Where did the towers go? https://www.wheredidthetowersgo.com

Andrew Johnson's two FREE E-Books on 9/11:

1. 9/11 – Finding the Truth - http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/pdf/9-11%20-%20Finding%20the%20Truth.pdf

2. 9/11 – Holding the Truth - http://checktheevidencecom.ipage.com/checktheevidence.com/pdf/911%20Holding%20The%20Truth%20-Andrew%20Johnson%20-%202017.pdf

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And to tie it nicely together, I’ve discovered that at least one of the 9/11 planes (N334AA/Flight 11) was still airborne until June 2021, almost 20 years after the attacks. It was last seen flying from Foley, AL to Mobile, AL – both of which are near Florida, where GWB was on 9/11/2001. And that’s assuming it isn’t a different plane with the same tail number, which is also possible.

https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/N334AA

https://pilotinstitute.com/tail-number-vs-call-sign-vs-flight-number/

What’s peculiar about this plane is that its owner is listed as unknown at FlightAware. This means we have no way of knowing who actually owned the aircraft in the 20 years since AA11 was reportedly hijacked and crashed by Al-Qaeda terrorists as part of a murder-suicide mission on 9/11. For all we know, it could still have been the same air carrier that it belonged to in 2001 – American Airlines. That might explain why they’re hesitant to disclose the real owner(s) of the plane listed as “N334AA” at FlightAware.

Additionally, one of the locations in Alabama (Mobile) has a large airport, which is open since 2019. It includes hangers big enough to accommodate large planes like Airbus and Boeing jets, so if they wanted to hide or store the Boeing 767 there, it wouldn’t be hard to do.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=seT3nONaNNM

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_International_Airport

https://www.airlinereporter.com/2015/09/airbus-opens-final-assembly-line-mobile-alabama/

Finally, American Airlines is active in Mobile, AL, so they do business with the town’s airport, as well. It’s not farfetched to assume they relocated Flight 11/N334AA there after 2001.

https://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInformation/destinationInformation/mob-airport.jsp

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Thanks for sharing the info, very interesting. I will check it out.

I have presented quite a bit showing the telemetry data showing all 4 planes were still airborne at the time of the "alleged" crashes.

All the best,

Mark.

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And in case that FlightAware link no longer works, here's an archived version of that webpage you can use:

https://web.archive.org/web/20240506045252/https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/N334AA

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Many thanks for this!

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You're welcome. Hopefully, you may include some of my research in future posts and videos about Flight 11. It may help solve the riddle as to what really became of that plane.

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Hi, Yes certainly include your info. Do you use the private messaging on here? Please contact me if you do, to send anything which you think would be of interest.

Many thanks!

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No, but I may continue posting on your substack any finds I deem to be relevant or of interest to you.

Off-topic, but I wonder if you may cover the forensic investigations into the 9/11 attacks in the foreseeable future, such as the DNA testing done on alleged victims' remains? I suspect there's probably some oddities there, too, like everything else about 9/11.

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Yes, it is an area I intend to look into at some point. I have done a bit of research already, but nothing as in depth as what I have been doing so far. I read Dean Hartwell's piece in his 3rd book on the DNA issues, which was quite interesting.

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